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Lord Yupa

February 2010

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SpamAssassin is back on, too.

And, happily, I've re-enabled SpamAssassin. Despite the problems it caused earlier, this program kicks much booty, and is currently the best Spam tool I've found. I just wish there was an easier way to integrate system wide support for it with QMail (requires a small QMail patch), but oh well. I think I'll be moving to that (from my current hack) soon. ;-)


Re: Qmail.

Ah, but you also have to factor in the fact that I help to run an IRC Network that utilizes QMail (I'm the Lead Postmaster) which has been customized with numerous patches we've written, as well as dozens of scripts to integrate it with our other systems, and I also run half a dozen boxen that currently make use of QMail, many with custom patches and scripts. At this moment, QMail is working very well for me.

Lastly, I also have a lot of experience and knowledge of QMail, while using something else (I'd like to play with Postfix at some point in the not too distant future) would have me starting over at the beginning again. And while I don't think QMail is very well maintained right now, due to DJB's annoying license, I still think it's better architectured and designed than anything else yet available.

Ah, well. Should DJB not lighten up soon, I fear that it will be obsceleted by other alternatives.

Re: Qmail.

Ok. Well, I can't (nor would I) argue with the fact that in your case it's established and entrenched, in more ways than one, and that's a very valid reason not to switch.

However, I don't think it's better architected or designed at all - maybe 3 years ago, yes, but not nowadays. I think Postfix is better, or at least equal, from that perspective.

I plan on trying out Postfix, and might end up converting from Sendmail to Postfix. I'm a Sendmail veteran, myself, although we use Exim where I work now (which I'm not a fan of, but it could be worse).

Re: Qmail.

I'll give you that Postfix may be equally well designed as QMail. In fact, after reading up a little more on Postfix, I find a great number of similarities in design between the two. Much of the design philosophy seems to be shared between the two.

Sendmail is usable, although it's always seemed big and cumbersome to me. I toyed with Exim a little bit, but after using QMail, it seemed inflexible and I had a handful of issues with it. Postfix I haven't really used, since I've been quite happy with QMail, in general (with the one huge exception being that horrible license and it's slowed development).

I wonder if anyone would consider writing an equivilent to ezmlm that would integrate nicely with Postfix. I know some people dislike ezmlm, but with th ezmlm-idx patch and a slight bit of work, I've found it to work really well, and I love allowing users the ability to set up their own mailing lists "under" their user accounts.